bobs77vet
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now you are just teasing me.
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SuperBuickGuy
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wiring continued.... pictures but not sure they show much
Holley recommends that if you have a dual terminal battery that you use the 'other' terminals for the EFI computer... at SEMA, there were all sorts of vehicles using these.. so I'll find out what their downside is... great
I'm going to put a bookmark here about FiTech. ONLY because they sponsor this page am I not going to unload - but I'm going to put paid on them and it should this latest thing play worse. The nutshell is they sent the wrong throttle bracket... .twice.... and the attitude of them is not sustainable.
fuel pressure sensor in place.... fun fact, the 'adapters' needed to be rethreaded with a 1/8 NPT tap to make it work
in fun news, new toy
wanted one for awhile but they were $300 or a lot more... this was less than $170 delivered.
computer fastened in place, just need to attach the power wire... 'just'
and then figure out the outputs. That means fan controls and which one runs the tach...
also waiting on a new relay box
and then a new core support and complete that frame mod that started awhile ago... one bite at a time
Holley recommends that if you have a dual terminal battery that you use the 'other' terminals for the EFI computer... at SEMA, there were all sorts of vehicles using these.. so I'll find out what their downside is... great
I'm going to put a bookmark here about FiTech. ONLY because they sponsor this page am I not going to unload - but I'm going to put paid on them and it should this latest thing play worse. The nutshell is they sent the wrong throttle bracket... .twice.... and the attitude of them is not sustainable.
fuel pressure sensor in place.... fun fact, the 'adapters' needed to be rethreaded with a 1/8 NPT tap to make it work
in fun news, new toy
wanted one for awhile but they were $300 or a lot more... this was less than $170 delivered.
computer fastened in place, just need to attach the power wire... 'just'
and then figure out the outputs. That means fan controls and which one runs the tach...
also waiting on a new relay box
and then a new core support and complete that frame mod that started awhile ago... one bite at a time
phantomjock
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Cut - Crimp - or both>
2nd image the camera went Biden on me.
If a wire crimper I've been using a hydraulic press, works good and have dies for every size I need.
Looking for some cutting dies.
Cheers - Jim
2nd image the camera went Biden on me.
If a wire crimper I've been using a hydraulic press, works good and have dies for every size I need.
Looking for some cutting dies.
Cheers - Jim
SuperBuickGuy
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cut
SuperBuickGuy
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did I ever mention I hate wiring?
case in point, I had to trace and find a wire so I have a tachometer signal. Then forgot I needed to have 2 wires connected
I may now weld with brass often, but its welding rod works great for fishing wires
need to add another bank of relays and fuses...
case in point, I had to trace and find a wire so I have a tachometer signal. Then forgot I needed to have 2 wires connected
I may now weld with brass often, but its welding rod works great for fishing wires
need to add another bank of relays and fuses...
SuperBuickGuy
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what's left?
power the water pump
radiator system and fans
brackets for PS pump and alternator
oil pressure sender
solve the MAP sensor dilemma... probably just a wiring choice but it needs to be done.
power the water pump
radiator system and fans
brackets for PS pump and alternator
oil pressure sender
solve the MAP sensor dilemma... probably just a wiring choice but it needs to be done.
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SuperBuickGuy
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why don't I recommend FiTech....
well
FiTech, putting the Cuss in cusstomer service
I wasn't gonna but I'm going to drive over FiTech with my bus and continue to do so until they're dead of a subsidiary of Holley.
To recap. Throttle cable bracket doesn't fit.
according to a sales guy at SEMA - they gave me the wrong bracket. Seems easy enough, send me the right bracket - but nope. I get Becky, Head of Warranty at FiTech (who admits to knowing nothing about cars) who seems to think sending me the wrong part somehow absolves FiTech.
So these pictures came after this email
I spoke with our QC manager and sales, they have confirmed the throttle cable bracket you received is the correct bracket ,as it is the same one used for our Ultra Ram and LS system. you should have a copy of these instructions, but If you would like to verify this yourself I have included a link to the ultra ram instructions below, you can view the part and part number on page 8.
https://fitechefi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/38301_38302_-Ultra-Ram-Instructions.pdf
Best wished on the rest of your install.
Oh but Becky (which isn't the name on her signature).
Look at your figure 27. The correct bracket is pictured in it. That is not the same as the picture on page 6 (or the picture I sent you of the original bracket.
pay close attention to the 90* angle on the bracket - it's 45* on figure 27.
oops... page 8
but wait, it just gets better
email header
My name is Stephanie, which you are well aware of. I'm actually trying to get this resolved for you, even though I am not involved in the technical side of our product and have never been trained on this end of our product. My position here is purely clerical.
If you don't want my assistance, I can ask someone else to contact you instead.
email continues
By yelling at me for having the audacity to question you - and hanging up on me.*
I'm not sure we use the same dictionary because "help" means listening to the customer. Getting defensive when you're utterly wrong and out of your depth is not within the traditional definition of help.
I already asked to talk to your manager.
And this does beg the question of why you're the messenger for the QC manager.
Aaron.
*And where Becky came from - it was the word you used to name yourself. That was right before I said "so why does your signature say Stephanie?" which was right after you proclaimed you were your own manager.
so more pictures of this bracket which fits
no
nope
still nope
maybe other side.... nope
What's fun in all of this is this.... I couldn't care less if they send me the right one but at this point Becky has annoyed me and I'm bored.
or as my dad used to say
At some point, when you wrestle with a pig in mud, you'll realized that one of you is enjoying it.
keep firmly in mind that this is not the first, second, third or even 4th time that I've had trouble with FiTech so I was using the Harbor Freight rule - if it needs to do something, buy something else.... Anvils, great, electronics, no. But here FiTech is winning by proving they can't even build a sheet metal intake with f***ing up.
well
FiTech, putting the Cuss in cusstomer service
I wasn't gonna but I'm going to drive over FiTech with my bus and continue to do so until they're dead of a subsidiary of Holley.
To recap. Throttle cable bracket doesn't fit.
according to a sales guy at SEMA - they gave me the wrong bracket. Seems easy enough, send me the right bracket - but nope. I get Becky, Head of Warranty at FiTech (who admits to knowing nothing about cars) who seems to think sending me the wrong part somehow absolves FiTech.
So these pictures came after this email
I spoke with our QC manager and sales, they have confirmed the throttle cable bracket you received is the correct bracket ,as it is the same one used for our Ultra Ram and LS system. you should have a copy of these instructions, but If you would like to verify this yourself I have included a link to the ultra ram instructions below, you can view the part and part number on page 8.
https://fitechefi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/38301_38302_-Ultra-Ram-Instructions.pdf
Best wished on the rest of your install.
Oh but Becky (which isn't the name on her signature).
Look at your figure 27. The correct bracket is pictured in it. That is not the same as the picture on page 6 (or the picture I sent you of the original bracket.
pay close attention to the 90* angle on the bracket - it's 45* on figure 27.
oops... page 8
but wait, it just gets better
email header
My name is Stephanie, which you are well aware of. I'm actually trying to get this resolved for you, even though I am not involved in the technical side of our product and have never been trained on this end of our product. My position here is purely clerical.
If you don't want my assistance, I can ask someone else to contact you instead.
email continues
By yelling at me for having the audacity to question you - and hanging up on me.*
I'm not sure we use the same dictionary because "help" means listening to the customer. Getting defensive when you're utterly wrong and out of your depth is not within the traditional definition of help.
I already asked to talk to your manager.
And this does beg the question of why you're the messenger for the QC manager.
Aaron.
*And where Becky came from - it was the word you used to name yourself. That was right before I said "so why does your signature say Stephanie?" which was right after you proclaimed you were your own manager.
so more pictures of this bracket which fits
no
nope
still nope
maybe other side.... nope
What's fun in all of this is this.... I couldn't care less if they send me the right one but at this point Becky has annoyed me and I'm bored.
or as my dad used to say
At some point, when you wrestle with a pig in mud, you'll realized that one of you is enjoying it.
keep firmly in mind that this is not the first, second, third or even 4th time that I've had trouble with FiTech so I was using the Harbor Freight rule - if it needs to do something, buy something else.... Anvils, great, electronics, no. But here FiTech is winning by proving they can't even build a sheet metal intake with f***ing up.
SuperBuickGuy
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the fix - fitech makes a bracket that's 45 degrees to the throttle body ... problem - it may hit the hood... but so all of this may be moot.... but then again, screwing with Becky has become something of a sport....
phantomjock
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heheheh get a kiss?
I think they have re-defined customer (dis) service.
Counting down the days for the Cyber release of the "Turtles."
Cheers - Jim
SuperBuickGuy
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I'm pretty sure she has other attributes that make her of value to the management. Usually, though, they put those in HR.
December 28. That's the day Optima Challenge opens registration. If I'm driving the Corvette, I'll register for next year. If not, I'll take a year to get some more seat time and make this thing reliable. cross your fingers.
phantomjock
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Fingers crossed - I'd better get busy if I wanna make 2024!
We'll know where I am by Christmas - I hope!
We'll know where I am by Christmas - I hope!
SuperBuickGuy
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I'm still in the negative self-talking from last year.... I know the sound of a BBC through sidepipes will cure that... but right now, I want a Camry
onto new brackets
which doesn't yet solve the problem - but it's a step
when I do my next BBC, I'm going to either embed the magnets in the balancer or run a reluctor wheel like they did on the 8.1 and 632 motors....
SuperBuickGuy
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not ready to start, yet, but powered it up... and a solid nope
lights on, nobody home - connected my laptop to it, 'no communication'
lights on, nobody home - connected my laptop to it, 'no communication'
bobs77vet
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take all ropes and sharp items away from this guy until he smells some hydro carbons, he has hit a new low.
I think some burn outs will shake the **** off
phantomjock
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He wants to BURN one - I hope!
SuperBuickGuy
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30 minutes on hold with Holley.... gave up.
also quite sick - so updates are not going to be coming often
also quite sick - so updates are not going to be coming often
bobs77vet
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i hope you feel better soon.
phantomjock
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Get Well Soonest - Much work to do, getting me off my A55!
Cheers mate.
Jim
Cheers mate.
Jim
SuperBuickGuy
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On Sunday before things went to hell, I got the distributor plug installed and resolved a wiring issue so the tach will work
the next day, this important part arrived
building a wheel for our Search and Rescue groups Stokes litter
of course it has not moved one inch from there
also ordered and received a solid state relay (actually 4 relays) to gain some longevity and reliability
nope, not touched it either. Today, was feeling a lot better so got stuff done that needed to be done... but updates coming soon
the next day, this important part arrived
building a wheel for our Search and Rescue groups Stokes litter
of course it has not moved one inch from there
also ordered and received a solid state relay (actually 4 relays) to gain some longevity and reliability
nope, not touched it either. Today, was feeling a lot better so got stuff done that needed to be done... but updates coming soon
SuperBuickGuy
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oh and important Holley update. Display is dead. They're sending me a new one, a caution - apparently their warranty is only 90 days (and I probably knew that) so I should have powered it up to verify it worked.
Downside is I now know why people keep wanting to borrow my Sniper handheld - the handhelds are on backorder
But the good news here is twofold. First Holley is sending me a new handheld for free, but second, I can do all I need to from my laptop so it won't really slow me down.
Downside is I now know why people keep wanting to borrow my Sniper handheld - the handhelds are on backorder
But the good news here is twofold. First Holley is sending me a new handheld for free, but second, I can do all I need to from my laptop so it won't really slow me down.
SuperBuickGuy
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so I did get FiTech's 'update' .... tried it tonight. I feel like sending them gold stars.
problem one, it doesn't actually clear
problem 2, it's not square to the throttle
problem 3, pretty sure it won't work in an optimal situation (e.g. one without an automatic)
not their problem but I suspect it won't clear the hood.
there has to be a better way, and it'll be me who builds it. As for FiTech, they're still in business even with all the negative publicity - good for them, poor suckers.
problem one, it doesn't actually clear
problem 2, it's not square to the throttle
problem 3, pretty sure it won't work in an optimal situation (e.g. one without an automatic)
not their problem but I suspect it won't clear the hood.
there has to be a better way, and it'll be me who builds it. As for FiTech, they're still in business even with all the negative publicity - good for them, poor suckers.
SuperBuickGuy
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a bit of wiring accomplished
how I wire... bare wire connectors covered by shrink tube
and wiring in a MSD solid state relay. runs 2 fans, water pump, and fuel pump
how I wire... bare wire connectors covered by shrink tube
and wiring in a MSD solid state relay. runs 2 fans, water pump, and fuel pump
SuperBuickGuy
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SuperBuickGuy
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not quite ready to fire, but I got the electrodigitals all ready to go
SuperBuickGuy
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well, it's been a couple days. will be a couple more before I get fully back to this - for my birthday I got a major health scare... woohoo me. As it's something I've dealt with since birth, I kind of know the routine.... I'll be fine by Christmas.... should be.
during this time, my new radiator did arrive and it doesn't fit (just like I expected
my goal is to use a Z06 intake that goes over the radiator to pick up cold air.... so major remodel time
and make a nice, short list (ha)
core support is ugly anyway so this will be an improvement
and it's out.
tomorrow I should have the last of the parts to start mocking all of into place....
during this time, my new radiator did arrive and it doesn't fit (just like I expected
my goal is to use a Z06 intake that goes over the radiator to pick up cold air.... so major remodel time
and make a nice, short list (ha)
core support is ugly anyway so this will be an improvement
and it's out.
tomorrow I should have the last of the parts to start mocking all of into place....
SuperBuickGuy
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thanks
Little nibbles... time to complete the removal of the cross brace
and gone
I'll weld caps on the stubs.... but then onward to the new support
and got more bits for the radiator....
also got the throttle cable.... of course, some voiding will be required
Little nibbles... time to complete the removal of the cross brace
and gone
I'll weld caps on the stubs.... but then onward to the new support
and got more bits for the radiator....
also got the throttle cable.... of course, some voiding will be required
phantomjock
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Be well.
Just got a squawk in my email from DC, that might interest.
Grumppyvette responded to a 15 year old posting, but is still germaine.
It was relative to using Water Wetter in the cooling system and it lowered the running temps.
I'd expect that Optima requires something sinmilar for on track, but maybe not.
SCCA does, so that is all I've been using so have no comparisong with/without.
And I'll use it in the 'vette too.
YMMV.
Cheers - Jim
Just got a squawk in my email from DC, that might interest.
Grumppyvette responded to a 15 year old posting, but is still germaine.
It was relative to using Water Wetter in the cooling system and it lowered the running temps.
I'd expect that Optima requires something sinmilar for on track, but maybe not.
SCCA does, so that is all I've been using so have no comparisong with/without.
And I'll use it in the 'vette too.
YMMV.
Cheers - Jim
SuperBuickGuy
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I have some earl's coolant - not quite enough to fill - but that would be the optimal choice.... that said, in what I do, no one checks.
This year I'm not doing national stuff, I need to get reliability in my car and comfortable that it will work.
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