Plastic Fantastic 2

[SuperBuickGuy]

those trailing arms look really beefy, who makes them?

thats a shop full for sure, what trailing arms are you putting on the red c3?

Ridetech.... they're pretty cool... I'll post pictures when they get back.

:beer:

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

trans oil leak.edited Yeah, I get it, I can always just add lube AND the level will never get to critical... but still.editededited

driveshaft out

new seal kit

trans out

bright side is there is no oil on the inside of the bellhousing

it might be that just the tail housing gasket was leaking, and yes, it's a lot more work to do it right


so sue me.edited The other side of that story is the counter-shaft may be loosening in its bore.edited Now, I can 'just' replace the case.edited Let it go long enough and it'll destroy everything

 

[Red77]

Who makes new cases for these, Autogear, Richmond?

 

[bobs77vet]

do they make sleeves you can put in?

 

[bobs77vet]

I just read the Ridetech web page thats pretty sweet

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

Who makes new cases for these, Autogear, Richmond?

richmond gear

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

do they make sleeves you can put in?

yes.... not sure who makes them, but at least one of the rebuilders does... to me, it doesn't look terribly hard to replicate if you have a lathe and/or mill

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

If the case is bad, I'll probably replace it with a Super T-10 from Richmond gear. That said, I've been looking at Doug Nash 5 speed/sequential gearboxes as the future upgrade. I'd love something I can bangshift on the autocross course... that said, budget wise, I need this one to survive next year. I need wheels before I need another gear

what's fun with the Super t-10 is the roundy round guys continue to use these (and there are cast-off NASCAR ones as well) - so there are updates, better cases, better gears (and gear ratios).... all for, comparatively, not a lot of money

https://www.richmondgear.com/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/richmond/RG25.pdf

 

[mfain]

There may be a lot of the NASCAR A431 transmissions available after the season since they are going to a new sequential transmission next year.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

There may be a lot of the NASCAR A431 transmissions available after the season since they are going to a new sequential transmission next year.

for those who wonder how I end up falling down the rabbit hole.... NASCAR A431 is now a new, and exciting way this has happened....


looking.....

and what a rabbit hole... it looks like it's a very attractive alternative at its price point. Much more research required, but thank you.... I'm also looking at either Jerico or Doug Nash as well. Jerico less so because they are noisy beasts.... but still...

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

the tl;dr is I think the mid-plate is cracked... but I'm going to run it
so
they say you should pull the main shaft out to pull the midplate....
no, you don't


the came a gasket search.edited I'm not convinced the rebuilder made a mistake - granted, the gasket he used was leaking - but still, there's probably a crack here somewhere


more gasket fun



somewhere on here

see the dirty blank spaces? those were both sealed and clean 300 miles ago

then there was the moment Luigi was laying at my feet while I dropped a gasket sealant brush on him.... oops

replaced the bushings while I was at it


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back in and leaking.... we won't talk about how it's sealed now

in other news, I can now use my laptop to program the Sniper


and in still other news

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

Thinking out loud.

I could replace the midplate, but if you look closely at the case, you'll see the counter-shaft bore is oblong - which means a new case too. Believe it or not, these are very popular and parts are available, new, for them... including upgrades.

I'm pretty sure my Right Stuff tempenant (or permanary?) fix will hold until winter but the writing is on the wall... so what to chose - so far these seem to be the choices.

1) Doug Nash 5 speed ($3600)
2) New Super t-10 with upgrades ($2500)
3) fix and pray ($1000)
4) TKX at $3500
5) T56 - $2500 (found one for that with all the upgrades)

1) - complaints about clunky and a pain when cold
2) - highest rating I've found is 325 ft lbs -though rumor is they can handle more....
3) cheapest - and it leaves me with a spare or sellable trans
4) they can't seem to come up with a price, but I think if I do this one, I'll spend the 'extra' and get the one rated to 900 ft. lbs (stock is 600)
5) requires replacement of my bellhousing so could be the most expensive (and could require hydraulic clutch change)..

 

[rtj]

Auto gear m22 or m23 were around 2200-2500 and good to approx 700 hp. Lots of ratios. Not sure availability or price any more.


4-16-2021 price update.
https://www.autogear.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/AGE_PRICE_SHEET_41921.pdf

In 2006 the m22 was around $1900.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

Auto gear m22 or m23 were around 2200-2500 and good to approx 700 hp. Lots of ratios. Not sure availability or price any more.

$2570 for just the gear set - cases are unavailable at this time.

 

[rtj]

AGE direct looks like $2240. That is a complete m22 with a super case.

I’ve had one close to 14 years. No issues.

M23 is their new design.

Hopefully their product is still good, but might want to check other forums.

 

[rtj]

This is a bit old, but shows a middleman price.

https://midwestmuncie.com/product/new-auto-gearsuper-case-muncie-m22-rock-crusher/

There are some reviews.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

so a bit about P2
Great Stuff has become my go-to stuff for sealing impossible leaks... it's at it again with my trans

time to attach the console cover plate better

bracket built

installed


Paul's car is back on the road.... needs an alignment but a bit of muffling for the summer so he can enjoy it until it gets rotten weather.... and now it's safe to drive
the old wheels were held on with the wrong lug nuts so it destroyed all of them
but new wheels

need to do some altitude adjustment but they look really good

Luigi felt his advice was necessary
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[phantomjock]

This had me scratching my head:

Great Stuff has become my go-to stuff for sealing impossible leaks... it's at it again with my trans

Thought that stuff is FOAM. Dropped into the chandelery to get some screws etc - there it was... Permatex Right Stuff.
Does it really go off in a minute? Would it be a suitable replacement for "blue" on the corners of my oil pan gasket on install?

If/When I get this boat sold (tomorrow?) full time on Elvira!

Cheers - Jim

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

This had me scratching my head:

Great Stuff has become my go-to stuff for sealing impossible leaks... it's at it again with my trans

Thought that stuff is FOAM. Dropped into the chandelery to get some screws etc - there it was... Permatex Right Stuff.
Does it really go off in a minute? Would it be a suitable replacement for "blue" on the corners of my oil pan gasket on install?

If/When I get this boat sold (tomorrow?) full time on Elvira!

Cheers - Jim

sorry, this stuff
https://www.permatex.com/products/g...nce-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-4/?locale=en_us

it doesn't shift well at all if the rods come off

the 2nd lever was backwards (offset out, not in)


and this hints what's next...

I drove it today and had all sorts of trouble with the fender getting into the tire...since I'm playing with the springs, I'll pull them out and set the camber/castor for racing at ride height.... in other news, I may have new dual adjustable shocks coming...

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[SuperBuickGuy]

centering device engaged

you knew you saw it somewhere before.... works perfect

so it's set with a good baseline

Front -2 degrees, 1/16 toe in
rear -1.1 degrees 1/32 toe inedited
editedit's a good start point, still need to balance the car on scales, but that'll happen later
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