mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
NYT and WaPost are both communist hack papers, I believe nothing printed in either one.....
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Decline of St Louis
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There's no fixing this, the divide is getting wider.
The protest leaders will insist on less responsibility and more "free stuff". The major concession they got from the initial riots was excusing various warrants and fines. Sounds like rewarding bad behavior to me.
So the protesters will take their mindset and go one direction. This will result in everyone else taking their money and business and going another.
Wait and see what Ferguson looks like 1, 5, 10 years. The price they'll pay for guys like Sam excusing a lack of reason or accountability.
Oh yeah, Sam, my blonde, "augmented" ex got out of more traffic tickets than me.....damn, I didn't burn anything down because of that..
See, there's always some humor in any situation.
The protest leaders will insist on less responsibility and more "free stuff". The major concession they got from the initial riots was excusing various warrants and fines. Sounds like rewarding bad behavior to me.
So the protesters will take their mindset and go one direction. This will result in everyone else taking their money and business and going another.
Wait and see what Ferguson looks like 1, 5, 10 years. The price they'll pay for guys like Sam excusing a lack of reason or accountability.
Oh yeah, Sam, my blonde, "augmented" ex got out of more traffic tickets than me.....damn, I didn't burn anything down because of that..
See, there's always some humor in any situation.
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MYBAD79
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I find it rather interesting that a jury evaluated all the evidence, talked with witnesses, evaluated their testimonies, sacrificed weeks of their lives doing all this.... And then some ******** who just happen to live in the same area think they know it all better and decide it's ok to start stealing stuff and damaging / burning other people's property.....
Why not get rid of all that silly justice system? Nothing but creating problems anyways, right ???
Why not get rid of all that silly justice system? Nothing but creating problems anyways, right ???
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
I find it rather interesting that a jury evaluated all the evidence, talked with witnesses, evaluated their testimonies, sacrificed weeks of their lives doing all this.... And then some ******** who just happen to live in the same area think they know it all better and decide it's ok to start stealing stuff and damaging / burning other people's property.....
Why not get rid of all that silly justice system? Nothing but creating problems anyways, right ???
THREE day process, maybe four at most.....4 MONTHS???
how damn stupid lazy they can GET??? how many lawyers made a killing off this BS and just specifically at who's EXPENSE???? that is what I want to know, you know.....transparency, and ****???
Kid Vette
Master-Baiter
It'll look a lot like Detroit. Another place liberals have destroyed.
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
Know what is really sad is seeing photos of Japan cities after the war, then comparing to American cities today
shocking.....Hiroshima today/Nagasaki today, vs Chicago/Detroit/Philly/NYC/Cleveland/St.Louis(without Corvette) so many others.....
Kid Vette
Master-Baiter
I think you are the racist.
In 2008, although black youth accounted for just 16% of the youth population ages 10–17, they were involved in 52% of juvenile Violent Crime Index arrests and 33% of juvenile Property Crime Index arrests.
According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher.
The black arrest rate for most offenses — including robbery, aggravated assault and property crimes — is still typically two to three times their representation in the population.
Relative to their share of the population, African Americans commit dramatically more crime, especially violent crimes and murders, than whites do.
7t9l82
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look also at black statistics in general, before the " great society" proposed by democrats and the implementation of welfare , divorce among blacks went from the lowest of all groups to the highest and single parent households also went lowest to highest. the poverty rate has steadily risen and so has the dropout rate. planned parenthood has murdered tens of millions of black children .(thats why margeret sanger created that group was to lower the black birth rate). the Black population bears a great deal of the blame themselves and needs to clean up its own mess. but the government bears a lot of the responsibility for creating another slave environment.
one day they will wake up and realize whats been done to them and rebel against the people that put them in this spot , oh wait could that be why the democrats want desperately to get illegal aliens here so they can vote? I'm not excusing one thing the black community does, but the democrats have sure helped them along.:bonkers:
one day they will wake up and realize whats been done to them and rebel against the people that put them in this spot , oh wait could that be why the democrats want desperately to get illegal aliens here so they can vote? I'm not excusing one thing the black community does, but the democrats have sure helped them along.:bonkers:
Wait, we have a committee and $100K study that will fix everything!!!!!!
The Lt Gov. Kinder is the only one with a clue:
"Kinder said similar studies have been done since the 1960s. He doesn’t think this one, which “will gather dust on lots of shelves, will be an important part of the solution to Ferguson.”
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_018cc5a3-d3db-5296-a581-75ca49921153.html
The Lt Gov. Kinder is the only one with a clue:
"Kinder said similar studies have been done since the 1960s. He doesn’t think this one, which “will gather dust on lots of shelves, will be an important part of the solution to Ferguson.”
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_018cc5a3-d3db-5296-a581-75ca49921153.html
Kid,
Don't you realize that much like the "hands up, don't shoot" fallacy, perception is reality. I'll even quote Jesse Jackson:
“There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
I'll stand by my thought that real racism is in expecting less reason and responsibility based on someones skin color.
That not only applies to cops with their actions, but also those like Sam who excuse bad behavior based on skin color.
Besides, 56% of people believe 85% of statistical facts are made up...
A little statistician humor....
Don't you realize that much like the "hands up, don't shoot" fallacy, perception is reality. I'll even quote Jesse Jackson:
“There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
I'll stand by my thought that real racism is in expecting less reason and responsibility based on someones skin color.
That not only applies to cops with their actions, but also those like Sam who excuse bad behavior based on skin color.
Besides, 56% of people believe 85% of statistical facts are made up...
A little statistician humor....
Kid Vette
Master-Baiter
This just keeps getting better. Just like the protest leader whose car got stolen, one of these boneheads is going to find out karma is a bitch. Any bets on which will be needing to call police in the next week.
Oh and excuse me for calling them boneheads, I'm sure they're intelligent, deeply thinking individuals who researched the facts of this well before protesting. After all being able to catch a ball, run, etc makes them infinitely qualified to assess the legalities of the situation.
http://time.com/3611175/rams-players-use-hands-up-dont-shoot-pose-while-taking-field/
Oops wait, I was wrong about the deeply thinking thing. A quote from one of the hands up players:
Cook said. “So we all just hopped on the bandwagon and came up with the idea of how we were going to do it.”
Oh and excuse me for calling them boneheads, I'm sure they're intelligent, deeply thinking individuals who researched the facts of this well before protesting. After all being able to catch a ball, run, etc makes them infinitely qualified to assess the legalities of the situation.
http://time.com/3611175/rams-players-use-hands-up-dont-shoot-pose-while-taking-field/
Oops wait, I was wrong about the deeply thinking thing. A quote from one of the hands up players:
Cook said. “So we all just hopped on the bandwagon and came up with the idea of how we were going to do it.”
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Sam Cogley
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And the head of the SLPOA who has been complaining about it is the epitome of a dirty cop.
Sam Cogley
Well-known member
You may think I'm a racist, but since you're quoting the NR and the Moonie Times, I think you're an idiot. Fair enough?
This is why I generally stay out of politics on car boards. Between the people who think everyone should act just like them, and the outright racists (I've stayed away from various BMW forums for a long time, because a subset of the posters sounded like a Klan rally), it doesn't do my blood pressure any good. I expect to find people with conservative leanings in such places, but so many have extremely unfriendly opinions to anyone who doesn't march in lock-step with them.
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Kid Vette
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That would be you.
Sam Cogley said, "One of these days I'll figure out how people who know so much about cars can be so clueless about everything else in the universe."
Sam, white kids don't stand on street corners selling their wares daily making themselves a mark for police. So apprehension is tough. Neither do they join gangs much often! Jesh...........
Maybe we should force drug sale equality. And gang association mandatory, equality you know?
Ralphy
Maybe we should force drug sale equality. And gang association mandatory, equality you know?
Ralphy
Don't you get it yet? I DONT CARE! It's now a comedy based on myth more than anything.
Nothing will change except the accelerated decline of Ferguson.
I watched the 1927 silent film "Metropolis" the other night (Btw, watch the 84 version with updated music if you're interested). It's the story Ferguson almost 100 years ago. Ignorant angry masses destroy their own neighborhood.
What's even funnier is the "committee". I can tell you exactly what they will do and how it will fail.
Now the Normandy school district solution....that was BRILLIANT!
So you still have lower expectations of minorities and excuse their behavior?
This comedy writes itself....
Nothing will change except the accelerated decline of Ferguson.
I watched the 1927 silent film "Metropolis" the other night (Btw, watch the 84 version with updated music if you're interested). It's the story Ferguson almost 100 years ago. Ignorant angry masses destroy their own neighborhood.
What's even funnier is the "committee". I can tell you exactly what they will do and how it will fail.
Now the Normandy school district solution....that was BRILLIANT!
So you still have lower expectations of minorities and excuse their behavior?
This comedy writes itself....
MYBAD79
Moderator
Yup..... That's also why we try to keep politics and religion out of this, too much drama, fighting, nothing good coming out of this.....
There are good people in every race and there are ******** in every race.....
I am absolutely positive that guy would have been shot and killed if he was white or yellow or red or an alien from god knows where..... But that's just me..... :goodnight:
Sam Cogley
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This is an interesting, and probably quite valid, point. Knowing the lengths that the Sheriff's Department would go to to set up a "buy" when I was working in a prosecutor's office, this raises a whole lot of interesting questions about how different areas are policed. Of course, our deputies were trying to go after the suppliers, they didn't care much about the little dealers unless they could use one to roll over on a big fish.
Bullshark
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Ok, Guys, this debate has probably gone a little to far. It started over whether or not St. Louis is declining and has progressed ( I should say digressed) to name calling. Not worth it here on a board of people I consider, or would like to call, friends. Sam, I don't know you personally but I seriously doubt you fall into the category of those I blame for this whole debacle. You have your beliefs and prejudices as we all do. I respect that. I don't know whether your white, black, yellow or what, it doesn't matter to me. Next time your in town, let's go down to my old childhood neighborhood and have a beer at one of the corner bars. BTW, I sure hope your black.....for my sake. :beer:
Bullshark
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I gotta agree with Bullshark, but not for the reasons he wrote.
Today 1) Jr High School students here walked out with the hands up protest, and 2) I heard a Nickleback protest song.
So I can cay with absolute certitude that the protests have "Jumped the shark"
Now back to the regularly scheduled black on black killings. Which, by the way, we're on schedule for a record breaking year here in St Louis.
Today 1) Jr High School students here walked out with the hands up protest, and 2) I heard a Nickleback protest song.
So I can cay with absolute certitude that the protests have "Jumped the shark"
Now back to the regularly scheduled black on black killings. Which, by the way, we're on schedule for a record breaking year here in St Louis.
Sam Cogley
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Ok, Guys, this debate has probably gone a little to far. It started over whether or not St. Louis is declining and has progressed ( I should say digressed) to name calling. Not worth it here on a board of people I consider, or would like to call, friends. Sam, I don't know you personally but I seriously doubt you fall into the category of those I blame for this whole debacle. You have your beliefs and prejudices as we all do. I respect that. I don't know whether your white, black, yellow or what, it doesn't matter to me. Next time your in town, let's go down to my old childhood neighborhood and have a beer at one of the corner bars. BTW, I sure hope your black.....for my sake.
Bullshark
I lived in some not-always-great parts of St. Louis, before I moved for grad school and work. Never really felt that worried anywhere I went. Like everything in life, one has to keep a close eye out wherever they are.
Some of my favorite neighbors were the Bosnian immigrants, I lived for a while in an apartment about a half mile from where that guy was killed in the hammer attack a few days ago.
Bullshark
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Some of my favorite neighbors were the Bosnian immigrants, I lived for a while in an apartment about a half mile from where that guy was killed in the hammer attack a few days ago.
That was a white guy killed by blacks..... right?? News media swept that under the table. :shocking:
BangkokDean
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They need more peaceful protests with honest demands.
7t9l82
Well-known member
Some of my favorite neighbors were the Bosnian immigrants, I lived for a while in an apartment about a half mile from where that guy was killed in the hammer attack a few days ago.
That was a white guy killed by blacks..... right?? News media swept that under the table. :shocking:
thats nothing new, how about the ones "playing" the knock out game and countless other attacks. the lame stream media loves to inform us of stupid stuff and cover up the real news.
mrvette
Phantom of the Opera
Some of my favorite neighbors were the Bosnian immigrants, I lived for a while in an apartment about a half mile from where that guy was killed in the hammer attack a few days ago.
That was a white guy killed by blacks..... right?? News media swept that under the table. :shocking:
thats nothing new, how about the ones "playing" the knock out game and countless other attacks. the lame stream media loves to inform us of stupid stuff and cover up the real news.
Even FOX is getting more and more liberal, they not reporting much of that stuff either.....:crap:
Kid Vette
Master-Baiter
I'm surprised the Tamir Rice shooting in Cleveland isn't getting more media attention. If that cop isn't indited, heck, I'll probably join the protest!
Sam Cogley
Well-known member
Some of my favorite neighbors were the Bosnian immigrants, I lived for a while in an apartment about a half mile from where that guy was killed in the hammer attack a few days ago.
That was a white guy killed by blacks..... right?? News media swept that under the table. :shocking:
Got plenty of press coverage from where I'm sitting.
Sam Cogley
Well-known member
The 12 year old kid that was shot by the cop who had been fired from another department for not having the emotional maturity to be a police officer? That is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. Apparently the person who called it in told dispatch that it was probably a toy gun, but dispatch didn't tell that to the officers.
