Cash for Clunkers Procedure - <cringe>

Yet another classic case of when green weenies have influence.....

go vote for another liberal....fascist/socialist/commie...same thing....

:shocking::gurney: not meant as personal against OP, just the root causes of this stupid behavior patterns carried out to the sublime....

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OH Well!
Maybe if the older generation had not done so much damage with pollution and careless disposal of toxins these kind of measures would not have to be taken today.
You have nobody to blame but yourself. And you have nobody to blame but yourself for the leaders that are in office today. So quite your whining.
 
You don't HAVE to trade your car in. You can keep it if you want. We are not being threatened (yet).

Anyone with any sense is not going to trade a valuable classic. I would think that even the dealers would simply allow $4500.00 as a trade for a nice classic car and take advantage of an unknowing customer that way, then turn around and sell the classic for a tidy profit.
 
Snicker, I have a '85 3/4 ton Dodge van 300k miles, I would qualify....

buy why on EARTH would I take on payments of 400+/month on a replacement vehicle??? :amazed::smash::smash:

Now if they'd gimme one of them 'trade in' trucks in trade even up, instead of destroying it....fine....I maybe even convinced to pay the sales tax at 7% ~300 bux......

but that's too much like planning ahead for the hippy bastards in .gov......
 
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Gene I couldn't agree with you more, $4500 for an '85 van is a good deal but taking on car payments is not - unless of course you are a green weenie :stirpot:
 
so what they're doing is taking off the market older but still reliable transportation lower income people depend on to get to their jobs and support their family. brilliant!
 
I don't know what you all are crying about all the time. nobody is making you trade in your car and buy a new one,and nobody is making you take on a car payment.
seems to me you are crying and you are not even being hurt. if you dont like it,dont do it.
But then again if you know so much,run for office and change it.Or just sit around and cry about Nothing.
 
mrvette said:
Snicker, I have a '85 3/4 ton Dodge van 300k miles, I would qualify....

buy why on EARTH would I take on payments of 400+/month on a replacement vehicle??? :amazed::smash::smash:
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Not everyone is retired Gene. If your looking to upgrade, and young enough, it's a good deal.
 
but it's OUR tax money, borrowed and in debt, adding to the mess, and like they say about 1/2 those cars would be sold anyway, and so everyone wanting a car waited a while for it to take place....they deferred the purchases in other words....why NOT?? I would....

all the MONEY, material, time/effort and yes OIL to make the damn things, but so we going to deliberately destroy them for just exactly WHAT behind the barn door reverse/perverse 'logic'???

I could see if maybe they wanted my truck and would swap, but I guess I will go down the road blowing black smoke to make any hippy cry....

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mrvette said:
but it's OUR tax money, borrowed and in debt, adding to the mess, and like they say about 1/2 those cars would be sold anyway, and so everyone wanting a car waited a while for it to take place....they deferred the purchases in other words....why NOT?? I would....

all the MONEY, material, time/effort and yes OIL to make the damn things, but so we going to deliberately destroy them for just exactly WHAT behind the barn door reverse/perverse 'logic'???

I could see if maybe they wanted my truck and would swap, but I guess I will go down the road blowing black smoke to make any hippy cry....

:bump::bump::smash:
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I would rather see us us a few billion to stimulate sales from the bottom up, than to give it to the top down.
Did you see where B of A gave millions to execs for bonuses after they recived govt money, and we fined them 33 million, which they will pay with the VERY money WE gave them?
 
what a waste...people drive "clunkers" because they can`t afford to drive a nice new car...unlike the housing market (that crashed) a new car will NEVER be worth more than you pay for it, now imagine whats going to happen when those former clunker drivers realize they can`t afford those payments or worse when the government money runs out? just like GM with the 0% financing people will expect it and wait for it.....doomsay is coming and you can thank his eminence King Obama.
 
redvetracr said:
what a waste...people drive "clunkers" because they can`t afford to drive a nice new car...unlike the housing market (that crashed) a new car will NEVER be worth more than you pay for it, now imagine whats going to happen when those former clunker drivers realize they can`t afford those payments or worse when the government money runs out? just like GM with the 0% financing people will expect it and wait for it.....doomsay is coming and you can thank his eminence King Obama.
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Mybe so Howard, maybe so.
 
big2bird said:
mrvette said:
but it's OUR tax money, borrowed and in debt, adding to the mess, and like they say about 1/2 those cars would be sold anyway, and so everyone wanting a car waited a while for it to take place....they deferred the purchases in other words....why NOT?? I would....

all the MONEY, material, time/effort and yes OIL to make the damn things, but so we going to deliberately destroy them for just exactly WHAT behind the barn door reverse/perverse 'logic'???

I could see if maybe they wanted my truck and would swap, but I guess I will go down the road blowing black smoke to make any hippy cry....

:bump::bump::smash:
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I would rather see us us a few billion to stimulate sales from the bottom up, than to give it to the top down.
Did you see where B of A gave millions to execs for bonuses after they recived govt money, and we fined them 33 million, which they will pay with the VERY money WE gave them?
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your just jealous you became an electrician and not a fat cat banker.....or maybe you have more morals than those con artists...and before any of you say a word I`m sorry I went to lazy bum school instead of Harvard or Wharton business school...
 
redvetracr said:
what a waste...people drive "clunkers" because they can`t afford to drive a nice new car...unlike the housing market (that crashed) a new car will NEVER be worth more than you pay for it, now imagine whats going to happen when those former clunker drivers realize they can`t afford those payments or worse when the government money runs out? just like GM with the 0% financing people will expect it and wait for it.....doomsay is coming and you can thank his eminence King Obama.
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Maybe so Howard, maybe so.
 
redvetracr said:
your just jealous you became an electrician and not a fat cat banker.....or maybe you have more morals than those con artists...and before any of you say a word I`m sorry I went to lazy bum school instead of Harvard or Wharton business school...
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Could be. I have turned down some lucrative deals in my life because I am lazy, but Honor is deeply instilled upon my bones. It's just the way I was raised.
 
big2bird said:
mrvette said:
but it's OUR tax money, borrowed and in debt, adding to the mess, and like they say about 1/2 those cars would be sold anyway, and so everyone wanting a car waited a while for it to take place....they deferred the purchases in other words....why NOT?? I would....

all the MONEY, material, time/effort and yes OIL to make the damn things, but so we going to deliberately destroy them for just exactly WHAT behind the barn door reverse/perverse 'logic'???

I could see if maybe they wanted my truck and would swap, but I guess I will go down the road blowing black smoke to make any hippy cry....

:bump::bump::smash:
Click to expand...

I would rather see us us a few billion to stimulate sales from the bottom up, than to give it to the top down.
Did you see where B of A gave millions to execs for bonuses after they recived govt money, and we fined them 33 million, which they will pay with the VERY money WE gave them?
Click to expand...

I can't EVER/EVEN talk about Wall St. they are all a bunch of fucking crooks, and charlatans....instead to taking on that mortgage bullshit, and going public with the Fannie/Freddie/Frankie crap forced lending, they RAN, and attempted a bunch of cover up paperwork.....then conned AIG into this crap selling to all the pension funds....fucking great....
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big2bird said:
redvetracr said:
your just jealous you became an electrician and not a fat cat banker.....or maybe you have more morals than those con artists...and before any of you say a word I`m sorry I went to lazy bum school instead of Harvard or Wharton business school...
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Could be. I have turned down some lucrative deals in my life because I am lazy, but Honor is deeply instilled upon my bones. It's just the way I was raised.
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Bird Me 2, and we were raised rong.....I look back and think I was a damn fool on the money side for WAY WAY WAY too long.....and as far a business sense, I know now that my father's situation was totally different generation, and today there is no such thing as a honest business partner....

I know I have typed this before, dunno where though....but my father should have paid off that US Senator some 50 years ago, my family would have been millionaires many times over.....dad wouldn't touch it....

today, looking back, sad to say, he was rong.....
 
up until a few months ago for a period of about 16 years. If i had that car they just blew up, it'd be the best car i owned.

They would have probably gotten $4500 in trade on that car anyway. I don't see it.

Unless it had some problem like a rod knock or something else we don't know about. Maybe it wouldn't pass inspection.
 
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