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  1. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    PAPPY: Another advantage of the spoiler - it makes a significant increase in the wing's effectiveness. WIG - Wing in Ground. These from Katz: [Multi-element] [Single element] Blown Diffusers: Nice comprehensive article here: http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/diffuser_blown.html CF...
  2. 69427

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...height to be changed (ie: dropped for track days) without causing the suspension geometry to go all to hell. The (IIRC) second to the last drawing shows a wing on top of the car. I have kicked around that idea for the past twenty years. I don't care to permanently change the body styling of...
  3. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Just an idea or 2 to think on for that rear deck: And remember a wing over a flat deck can have a huge increase in performance. This exhaust would boost that and fill that area (maybe? TBD) Cheers Jim
  4. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...was Vortex Generators on the trailing edge of the roof. Hint-Hint to member 69427! The best approach was VGs in conjunction with a wing mounted -- although they referred to it as a "spoiler" in their report, they modeled a wing. I'm not making any promises, but have on my plate of...
  5. phantomjock

    Weight reduction: Running out of ideas.

    Always looking to help you spend money$$$.:o I was "on the hunt" for a mechanism for the gull-wings, and came across these: https://picclick.com/C3-Corvette-68-82-Electric-headlight-motor-conversion-kit-321689148631.html I'd post a pic - but my page is full and won't take anymore! With an...
  6. mfain

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...into the tunnel - overkill LOL. The belly of the car between the tunnels is a flat carbon fiber panel - again not installed in these construction shots. The last photo is a aero-tapered fairing where the wing mounts to the struts. The struts are also aero/wing shaped to minimize drag. Pappy
  7. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...the cut-outs, the exhaust diverted to above the deck, and voila, drag decrease and increase in downforce. A low, deck-wide airfoil section (wing) could be installed inches above the deck and the exhaust blown under the wing. DISCLAIMER: My CAD is down, and I lost my box of crayons -...
  8. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...showed some more underbody aero in the advert, but that wasn't their purpose. Here is an example on an F1: "Baseline" means both front and rear wing. Note the Cp (coefficient of pressure) is only slightly lower in the no-wing configuration - but a huge difference in the Drag coefficient...
  9. BBShark

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Is that some kind of scavenging effect?
  10. SuperBuickGuy

    Plastic Fantastic 2

    ...undercoatingedited remove metal from flange spray with weld-through primer first to mark the edges eventually I'll weld this on both sides, but this is a start and finally another project in the wings initially I was/may weld this - but the cap retainer would need another solution...
  11. 69427

    Weight reduction: Running out of ideas.

    Vacuum tube behind the rear bumper???
  12. mfain

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...rapidly or unexpectedly in a near-the-limit cornering situation can get your attention! In the rear I use a spoiler to lengthen the deck, a wing, and a diffuser. They should work together to both create downforce and smooth and reaccelerate the flowing air to blend with the free airstream...
  13. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...ideas have worked over into World Rally Competition, diffusers, flares, etc. I recall he also provided aero consulting to JDM for aftermarket wings, etc. He has proven worthy of his last name. Cheers - Jim Pappy - thanks for the Sutton reminder. Its been a while since I've been by there.
  14. rtj

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Your first impression is this will be disappointing, but this guy is thinking. Two interesting comments: I always think of wing-in-ground-effect as increased lift for flying machines. But, for downforce it makes sense it will augment (as he says). Also, he talks about the big vortex that...
  15. bobs77vet

    1958 MGA Coupe

    and i scored some new wing mirrors at the car show today
  16. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...Porsche 917 - Long Tail. It appears they built these to provide cooling to the transaxle: The scoops they used on deck were located below the wing: Nice integration of the ducts to the rear deck shown here: With a little imagination, you can see how this approach could be reversed to...
  17. BBShark

    Amazing XKE RestoMod-Sanding and more Sanding 7/15/26

    ...I bought this car, I really didn’t know what a Jaguar bonnet consisted of. There are 4 essential pieces to it, which are the center section, two wings (fenders) and the valance (belly pan). These all bolt together. The whole assembly hinges forward from a Support Member which is a structure...
  18. SuperBuickGuy

    Plastic Fantastic 2

    beautiful car and beautiful job... dang. I was watching Bitchin Rides (Kindigit) and their Mercedes gull wing build. I saw the car at SEMA, so I really watched with interest how they fixed the issues with that car. the one I found most interesting was when he was rebuilding the fender and...
  19. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...need to watch aerodynamic pitching moment, but should be favorable to the front wheels. You could tailor that by choosing appropriate NACA wing section. I like the duct from rear wheel wells to the aft deck. Could be very helpful. Maybe a couple of 12v fans in the duct on a variable speed...
  20. BangkokDean

    Official joke of the day thread

    ...grandma?" he asked."Not really, Papa, it was boring. We didn't see a single *******, queer, dipshit,horse's ass, tree hugger, socialist left-wing punk, uglybastard, Muslim camel-humper, or son-of-a-bitch anywhere we went. We just drove around and around, and Grandma smiled at everyone we saw...
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