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  1. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Pappy - guess you weren't going fast enough? I'm still working on active wings - active suspension will be a bit of an effort. Progress has slowed while trying to sell a boat! Cheers - Jim
  2. phantomjock

    Rear spoilers

    ...using the techniques presented in the pdf. You'll note the flow aft of the car is very streamlined, and an added bonus is the air over the rear deck provides much needed downforce. No spoiler, no wing. Just some suction. If anyone is interested in the book - let me know via pm. Cheers - Jim
  3. SuperBuickGuy

    Plastic Fantastic 2

    ...things on that list, such as: Corbeau seats (though these may happen soon) race-prep transmission with scattershield go-fast a-arms splitter wing spoiler custom center console I don't want to wait another year to get this on the road so some accommodations are being made now to things that...
  4. mfain

    Old Project Revitalized - 56 Track Car

    ...(scoop for power steering air) Panels behind the grill to complete a pre-radiator diffuser. They were all vacuum bagged. The small wing (in the middle) goes behind the grill center bar and may provide some downforce, but is mainly to divert more high pressure air up higher on the...
  5. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...I thinks the challenge; "... lies not in our stars, but in our "cars"..." Sorry Shakespeare :) The car presents itself as an analog of a wing. So getting a high pressure over the top of the car would take some real doing. Consider the following comparison: A vert may have more potential...
  6. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    And the text that goes with the image: From a good article over at Speed News: https://nasaspeed.news/tech/aero/air-dams-splitters-spoilers-and-wings-downforce-increases-grip-grip-decreases-lap-times-and-isnt-that-the-whole-point/
  7. rtj

    Plastic Fantastic 2

    Kirkey seats might be more appropriate :)
  8. BBShark

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Incredible workmanship and engineering!
  9. mfain

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...leading edge that is actually an extension of the firewall. The area highlighted at the rear is the portion of tunnel that is shown in the following photos. Photo 2 shows the side skirt (under construction at the time of the photo) and the third photo is of the tunnel assembly with side...
  10. mfain

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Looks like he followed the lead of Danny Popp and Brian Hobaugh with their C-3/C-2 autocross cars from a few years back - Van Steel, JRI shocks, tubular control arms, hugh spoiler, and fat tires. Both of those guys moved on to a C5 platform in recent years to compete in the Optima Ultimate...
  11. rtj

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Active aero on the rear wing. Braking assist maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LLsNjYNRts
  12. rtj

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...The cutouts in the front fender flares are interesting. Definitely for aero reasons, as the water and dirt will be flying over the sides of the car. Lots of hood ducts, must be for cooling radiators. Wing mounting also optimized. Lol, the camera man jumps at 3:00 when they fire the car up.
  13. mfain

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...this Subaru. http://www.thebaynet.com/articles/1220/pastrana-stunt-video-heats-up-the-internet.html Active aero includes a spoiler on the rear wing that appears to be activated by the button on the top of the rear brake handle. He uses the spoiler (increased rear downforce) to control the...
  14. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...Placement of the control arm is key to keeping the loads down. On my back burner is an Active Aero module to be semi-autonomous, sort of wings level trim, that "paddles off" under acceleration (DRS) and under braking - increases. I'm sure we have some brighter EEs here than me. I have...
  15. 69427

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    My reason for trying some aero mods at the cowl area is that it is the only spot on the upper bodywork that is shaped correctly to cause downforce/drag. Pretty much most all the rest of the forward section of a C3 is shaped to cause lift. In addition to the PC spoiler, I've got a bellypan under...
  16. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...interesting aero features and each is highlighted and I won't blather on about them all. But, this is an interesting approach on the rear: The wing is in an area to expect clear air, and mounted on top of the spoiler/slot gets the added "boost" of being in a "ground effect" from the spoiler...
  17. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...- to make downforce and this might be a way move the air out from underneath. The pics Chris shared show some interesting ways to do that. Thanks! This seems to be an area to work with out a lot of external "stuff" - splitters skirts, wings, etc. (but they look so cool). Cheers - Jim
  18. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...drive around mode, in handling mode up to 0.40, and then drops to 0.35 in top speed mode. Handling mode is going to have some induce drag from wing downforce increases, and the dimples only function in High Speed Mode, so I'll only use Top Speed Mode Cd. If the Chiron had Dimples which came...
  19. phantomjock

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    ...cost ya. (If you buy it outright- but hey -- we can "engineer"- right?) An outfit known as AMS performance has been marketing an active rear wing for several years. If you want to link to the setup: https://aeromotions.com/products/chevrolet/s1-dynamic-chevrolet-corvette-c6-wing/ -...
  20. rtj

    Internal Body Aerodynamics

    Another recent one. He mentions the wing, but looks like lots of aero work was done that is not discussed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37q2Ju5nr0&app=desktop
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