Dowel pin

OK, now I got a damn stupid question....how in hell to tell if you have any bellhousing totally centered correctly, most input shafts have a lot of play in them and will slip into the crank bearing ...so how in hell you know if there is too much lateral?? much less which way to turn which pin??

kinda hard to do under the car upside down and backwards....NO???

I can see if you doing a automatic, just see that the converter flips easy before you bolt it to the flex plate, I have never had any converter drag one bit on the snout or anywhere else for that matter, I just bolt them home and no sweat....except a Dodge van which some jerk bubba AFU'd for me ....

but how in hell to tell on a stick shift??

much less with a clutch plate hanging in there....

:clobbered:
 
Did you dress the lakewood dowel pins before inserting them into the block? Did you dress the bellhousing and test if they went in there snugly? I see how the other more expensive ones are a little eaasier to work with but the lakewood ones have been around for years and years and many people have used them with great success. I think part, if not most of your problem is not because of the offset dowels, it's because you forgot a critical step. These things are oversized a little for a reason, so that they sit snug in the dowel pin hole, and it too tight a fit can be dressed to fit more smoothly.That's why they may be a little oversize for some people, not for others.
 
Well, I put some scotch brite and copper grease on them. But they where so tight I couldn't move them with a screw driver. But that is past. Yesterday evening I did the run out measurement again with my neighbor. We had set the dowels on about 4 o'clock. These are the measurements.

Metric (mm) Inch (Metric/25,4)
12 o'clock 0,000 mm 0,0000 inch
03 o'clock -0,100 mm -0,0039 inch
06 o'clock 0,020 mm 0,0008 inch
09 o'clock 0,130 mm 0,0051 inch

Delta X 0,230 mm 0,0091 inch
Delta Y -0,020 mm -0,0008 inch

Pritty close, and within the 0.005". So we set the dowels on 3 o'clock

Metric (mm) Inch (Metric/25,4)
12 o'clock 0,000 mm 0,0000 inch
03 o'clock 0,065 mm 0,0026 inch
06 o'clock 0,090 mm 0,0035 inch
09 o'clock 0,010 mm 0,0004 inch

Delta X 0,055 mm 0,0022 inch
Delta Y 0,090 mm 0,0035 inch

Close enough.

Just to be sure we removed and installed the bell house again.

Metric (mm) Inch (Metric/25,4)
12 o'clock 0,000 mm 0,0000 inch
03 o'clock 0,025 mm 0,0010 inch
06 o'clock 0,015 mm 0,0006 inch
09 o'clock 0,020 mm 0,0008 inch

Delta X 0,005 mm 0,0002 inch
Delta Y 0,015 mm 0,0006 inch

Good enough for me. It is time to move on to the other parts of the TKO install ;-)
 
The usual TKO install picture.

Had a hard time with the bearing
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Turned out I did not interpreted the instructions well. Here you can see what I did wrong

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I enjoyed the shifting thus far, very short movement, great!!

TKO600, beautifully engineered, mind the sharp edges. Cut hands several times.
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The ingredients for today's dessert.
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Or if you have a dirty mind all greased up for penetration ;-).
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I had a hard time getting the spline to connect. Initially the bellhouse was torqued down, this turned out to be the issue. I gave the bellhouse some room to move and the TKO sleighed right in
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The Keisler instructions aren't to bad, if this was a installation with the motor in!!
 
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