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Jughead
06-05-2008, 05:54 PM
Is he still around?

Yellow73SB
06-05-2008, 06:14 PM
Hes into the horses more now

His car is up for sale

redvetracr
06-05-2008, 06:21 PM
His car is up for sale

I hope that works out for him.....

MYBAD79
06-05-2008, 07:40 PM
Haven't seen him post in a while.... hmmm... he's selling after all that work he put into the car .....hope it works out for him

Yellow73SB
06-05-2008, 07:51 PM
I read that so it's not 100% for certain

Twin_Turbo
06-05-2008, 08:20 PM
He must be bummed for some reason.

mrvette
06-06-2008, 12:25 AM
He must be bummed for some reason.

Over the years I have talked about various topics with him, on the back channels....and I believe him when he said he is burnt out, and wanted to pursue other goals....

I dunno if this is true or not, but a traffic ticket for significant speeding would cause such a reaction....BUT on the other side of the coin, the man had about wrung out as much as anyone could get from his shark....

he was a typical engineer, well convinced once his project was proven to his satisfaction.....in other words....suffered fools greatly....

Like most of us here, would love to have met him, and maybe someday can build an engine together....eh, how about an INDY winner???

whimsical dreamer....:nuts::nuts::nuts:

saudivette
06-07-2008, 07:28 PM
Maybe he's still pissed about the hat I photochopped onto his head?

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turtlevette
06-07-2008, 08:04 PM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

mdbelanger
06-07-2008, 09:38 PM
Saw that and you D Boy cry.

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mrvette
06-08-2008, 01:49 AM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

You have a link to that by chance?? I think I missed that thread....

thanks...GENE:clobbered:

SmokinBBC
06-08-2008, 02:25 AM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

You have a link to that by chance?? I think I missed that thread....

thanks...GENE:clobbered:

It was the top 5 best mods thread over at DC. He didn't like the poking fun we were doing...he blew chunks over my post. You didn't miss the thread...

Strider must still be looking for things on DC. His profile showed activity on June 4.

turtlevette
06-08-2008, 02:31 AM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

You have a link to that by chance?? I think I missed that thread....

thanks...GENE:clobbered:

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mrvette
06-08-2008, 04:23 AM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

You have a link to that by chance?? I think I missed that thread....

thanks...GENE:clobbered:

It was the top 5 best mods thread over at DC. He didn't like the poking fun we were doing...he blew chunks over my post. You didn't miss the thread...

Strider must still be looking for things on DC. His profile showed activity on June 4.


Oh well, shame to loose him, did he ever post here???

:shocking::bonkers:

big2bird
06-08-2008, 05:13 AM
Oh well, shame to loose him, did he ever post here???

:shocking::bonkers:

Not that I am aware of Gene.

Twin_Turbo
06-08-2008, 07:36 AM
He came onto DC and admonished the dirty dozen for our treatment of durango boy. He told us that we were no better than durango boy.

I wrote a rather long and detailed response telling him exactly why we were indeed better. He got pounded pretty good.

You have a link to that by chance?? I think I missed that thread....

thanks...GENE:clobbered:

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post 71 and 72 and 73

Oh that thread, that's where he was being very modest LOL

Remember, that was the 1st time he came back after a very long hiatus.

I hadn't seen him psot after we butted heads. I received numerous PMs from others (who know him in person) that he was bummed because of me.

He was upset with me saying that the way he alignted his drivetrain was fundamentally wrong and recommending it to others was a big mistake. I still stand by my comments. Weird though, whenever I posted about soemthing I had been working on he was always there to try to break it down or find some flaw. Never really had a problem with that. Some people just can't take criticism very well. I told him I thought he was acting like a child, never got a reply to my PM.

So, another person hates my guts, join the back of the line LOL :pprrtt:

turtlevette
06-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Some people just can't take criticism very well.

yea, but you're getting better.

mrvette
06-08-2008, 07:22 PM
Some people just can't take criticism very well.

yea, but you're getting better.

He IS?? how can you tell???


:eek::twitch::fishing::suicide::stirpot::smash::pu sh::thumbs:

Twin_Turbo
06-08-2008, 07:27 PM
Some people just can't take criticism very well.

yea, but you're getting better.

Big difference between having critique on someones approach/methods than just being rude and basically trying to take a dump on someone just to get him riled up. Whenever someone had something to say about my mods I've always replied by giving my point of view or reason for going a certain way. But I know why you posted this, again category 2!

turtlevette
06-08-2008, 08:55 PM
Some people just can't take criticism very well.

yea, but you're getting better.

He IS?? how can you tell???


:eek::twitch::fishing::suicide::stirpot::smash::pu sh::thumbs:

i've busted on him pretty good lately and his head did not explode. Now that's real progress.



Big difference between having critique on someones approach/methods than just being rude and basically trying to take a dump on someone just to get him riled up. Whenever someone had something to say about my mods I've always replied by giving my point of view or reason for going a certain way. But I know why you posted this, again category 2!


Isn't it possible to take a dump and be proving a point at the same time? About 60% of the time i do have a point.

Belgian1979vette
06-08-2008, 09:17 PM
Don't know him personally, but i read several of his posts over at cf and DC. Some where very interesting.

guru
06-08-2008, 09:17 PM
thats too bad. its just the internet. I havent asked that someone fornicate with syphlis infected farm animals in awhile. Look at me, I am maturing.:friends:

BRUTAL64
06-09-2008, 08:34 PM
thats too bad. its just the internet. I havent asked that someone fornicate with syphlis infected farm animals in awhile. Look at me, I am maturing.:friends:



From what I have read.................sheep are the most type infected.

Twin_Turbo
06-26-2008, 07:04 PM
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Well, that says it all doesn't it? It's all about that alignment thing. I knew it all along, how sad!

Belgian1979vette
06-26-2008, 07:23 PM
Don't know about the previous discussion, but apparently the Kiesler has some problems getting aligned.

Twin_Turbo
06-26-2008, 07:30 PM
It's not a keisler problem, it's installer error.

redvetracr
06-26-2008, 07:48 PM
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Well, that says it all doesn't it? It's all about that alignment thing. I knew it all along, how sad!

Ah Norval, the expert at all things...Interesting that "he who thinks he walks on water" doesn`t mention he originally told everyone to slot the diff mounting holes so you could move your pinion over, ultimately placing the whole rear axle assembly out of wack.....convenient omitted from his latest tirade against the "jerks who abide"...
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MYBAD79
06-26-2008, 07:49 PM
I remember that discussion about the alignment...

Maybe Blackrat chimes in here too, we exchanged a few PMs on this subject.

I installed the TKO and I had to pry the tranny tail over to the passenger side just to keep the yoke from hitting the floor. I agree with Norval on this part: I will break my engine mounts but I already have solid mounts on the shelf.

I had to align the angles, my trans was pointing down as well as the diffy. I am using a poly diffy mount that is taller than the rubber piece. I'd think that nobody can compare the old worn shredded rubber piece with the new poly piece - it appears normal that the new poly mount is thicker/taller.... it is too tall...

I cut the poly mount, added washers and raised the diffy.

Left / right trans tail alignment: looks like I was just lucky and got it close enough, never used a string or measured anything.

No vibrations anymore, runs smooth as silk....

BBShark
06-26-2008, 08:15 PM
I was involved in some of the drivetrain angle debates. Norval stated that his drivetrain was perfectly aligned, engine, driveshaft and rear (in both planes). I prodded him on his engine angle and he finally said it was 4 degrees.

It is physically impossible for the engine, trans, driveshaft and rear to all be aligned at 4 degrees. This would place the crank centerline about 6 inches above the diff pinion.

68L71
06-26-2008, 08:46 PM
he originally told everyone to slot the diff mounting holes so you could move your pinion over, ultimately placing the whole rear axle assembly out of wack.....redvetracr

Wow...that soulds like advice from DB!

BRUTAL64
06-26-2008, 08:46 PM
I was involved in some of the drivetrain angle debates. Norval stated that his drivetrain was perfectly aligned, engine, driveshaft and rear (in both planes). I prodded him on his engine angle and he finally said it was 4 degrees.

It is physically impossible for the engine, trans, driveshaft and rear to all be aligned at 4 degrees. This would place the crank centerline about 6 inches above the diff pinion.



This great stuff. Unfortunately, not all of us were in on all the discussion. Could someone - in condensed form - let us in on what is the proper alingment that we should be looking for? I have a pretty good idea, but it would be nice to have something concret to work with. Thanks.:thumbs:

Twin_Turbo
06-26-2008, 08:58 PM
Read the tech article in the drivetrain section. It's the only way to do it properly

Karsten, if your motor mount is tight, you CAN modify the motor mount but you have to keep the drivetrain pointed straight back.

The discussion back then was rotating the driveline to point directly to the diff pinion (which is offset but less than 1") and also slotting the diff crossmember holes to literally angle the diff sideways pointing the pinion to the drivetrain centerline. In effect, you're installing the whole drivetraing in the car crooked. That's NOT the way to do it, by any means.

MYBAD79
06-26-2008, 09:03 PM
Ultimately I'll have to run a string down the drivetrain to see where the heck I'm at. I had to pry the transmission tail approximately 1/2" over to clear the tunnel, I only used a small prybar and moderate force. I use poly engine mounts, so far they have not come apart..... I will feel better once the solid mount is in, at least on the driver side, I might leave the passenger side poly .... not sure yet, I'll have to see how it vibrates with two solid mounts....

Twin_Turbo
06-26-2008, 09:30 PM
With all the tension in these frames, a half inch is not that bad.

mrvette
06-27-2008, 01:34 AM
I was involved in some of the drivetrain angle debates. Norval stated that his drivetrain was perfectly aligned, engine, driveshaft and rear (in both planes). I prodded him on his engine angle and he finally said it was 4 degrees.

It is physically impossible for the engine, trans, driveshaft and rear to all be aligned at 4 degrees. This would place the crank centerline about 6 inches above the diff pinion.



This great stuff. Unfortunately, not all of us were in on all the discussion. Could someone - in condensed form - let us in on what is the proper alingment that we should be looking for? I have a pretty good idea, but it would be nice to have something concret to work with. Thanks.:thumbs:

Ditto Glen, I also find it strange GM messed up all these sharks right outta St. Louis.....impossible to believe they would be worse than other cars, really....

and so HOW do I determine this crap from under the car, flat on my back???

I know the dirvers? side engine mount is under stress, so I can get yet another one and elongate the bolt holes....but what practical differance does it make???

any fuel economy differances...??

BTW had bad vibrations with the 700 turbo...but much reduced with the 200 in there now, and of course a longer rather than shorter driveshaft....

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