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Old 11-10-2016, 11:05 AM
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Default Shimming a Starter

I see info with instructions on how to shim a starter but they all presume the bellhousing is not attached to the engine. I assume 99% of the time the bellhousing is in place.

So, how do you shim a starter? My guess is that you could install with no shims, try it and see if it sounds OK. Doesn't seem like a very good method.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:46 PM
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With the starter in the rest mode, you take a 1/8" spacer and slide between two of the fly/flex teeth and the naked end of the starter motor...should slide easy

lately they seem to include a certain size allen wrench because it's easier to get in there....but of course I forget the size....do a search....

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Old 11-12-2016, 08:29 PM
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I've been racking my brain trying to remember what I did last year with my new PowerMaster starter to the new flywheel of my 5-speed. The steel bellhousing has a big opening around the starter gear and I think I used a big paper clip or maybe a piece of wire bent for a go-no-go gauge between the gear teeth of the starter & flywheel. But in the end, I just ran it and have had no problem.....
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Old 11-15-2016, 11:37 AM
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Withe the engine/trans assembled there are no options I have seen. In addition the starter I have has a "nose cone" on so there is no access.

I think I just install with no shims and see if it sounds OK.
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Old 11-15-2016, 02:33 PM
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As long as it doesn't gronch, skip or bang when it engages, doesn't grind or chatter when it turns over and doesn't hang up upon disengagement, it should be fine.
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I have a 200 4r trans now, used to have a 700, played with 350 and 400's over the decades, and it's been the same....need to remove and toss that silly metal plate they have on auto transmissions.....been so damn long ago, I forget the install on a stick shift..... but it's gotta be the same clearance....


I try to show in computer, the concept.....


0---starter front shaft NO bendix teeth.....
------------lines to indicate the 1/8 diameter 'gauge'
^^ mimic the teeth on flywheel......

and obviously no space in the vertical as above......but no binding either.....


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I'm part of the "if it sounds fine, it is" group. If it isn't sounding right and one "shim" doesn't work then I pull the bendix off and see what's up. The one that has gotten me more then once is the flywheel being out-of-round. That said, I've done hundreds and only had trouble with 2 or 3.
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I'm part of the "if it sounds fine, it is" group. If it isn't sounding right and one "shim" doesn't work then I pull the bendix off and see what's up. The one that has gotten me more then once is the flywheel being out-of-round. That said, I've done hundreds and only had trouble with 2 or 3.
An OUT OF ROUND flywheel??
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