Wayne, Australia.....what YOU think...

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ONE many lands I will never see, curious as I have heard most of the population lives on the coasts, sort of like N. America/USA....so I have heard the interior is a desert....which I don't think is true....

I presume you all have railroads and farms and interior rivers and cities, and all sorts of deveolpment inland....

as compared to what you know of the USA and the world, how do you honestly compare your national situation???

Interested in the development aspect of things...as me being a tech sort of person....also the climate...

and can't help note the map of the USA nation is the exact replica of your continent, inverted....

Will/can you describe it in your terms, going around the joint???

I know it's a LOT to ask for a guy....but what prompts me a lot about this is a guy I went to High School/friends with...moved there upon gradding, and never seen since....
 
I'm not Wayne, but here is something for you to chew on until he responds.

Road trains are used to cross quite a bit of the country. The dry/dusty environment causes havoc on the engines.

Check this out:

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I just saw your post Gene. I'm just about to head out for dinner with Christine but I'll try and answer you later on tonight or maybe tomorrow - I don't want to brush you off with a one line answer :thumbs:
 
Been there a couple times working with Holden Motor Company. Enjoyed my time there. Flew into Melbourne the first time, and Darwin the second time. We drove a bunch of development vehicles into the interior for some real world calibration and development mileage without the high traffic of the coastal area. I grew up in the midwest (the great plains area, as it were), but we drove through some amazingly flat territory through some of those drives. The RHD steering in the cars was an interesting experience. With the manual trans cars, I found that for quite a while every time I stopped at a stop sign, I'd do the usual footwork on the brake and clutch pedals okay, but my right hand instinctively kept reaching out to the right to downshift, and I ended up repeatedly grabbing the window crank lever. After checking to see if anybody in the car noticed (oops), I'd then switch my driving hands and extend my other arm to the left side shifter. Intersections and traffic roundabouts were interesting experiences, as I had to tell my mind to do everything the opposite way that I instinctively wanted to do when turning corners.
Ate a lot of good food on the trips. Language wise, I noted a dialect variety (as we're used to when driving around here in the US) when in the interior. A couple times I had to have some "english to english" translation done for me at some restaurants. I'm still astounded that Australia and the US have the same roots (England) for their language(s). FWIW, I also got to see several kangaroos and wallabees up close on the trip. It was obvious I was the new guy there, as the Holden guys didn't seem to be terribly excited when these animals were nearby.
All in all, it was an interesting experience.
 
ONE many lands I will never see, curious as I have heard most of the population lives on the coasts, sort of like N. America/USA....so I have heard the interior is a desert....which I don't think is true....
Eighty-five percent of Australians live on the coast in an area that takes in the three largest cities, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane as well as the fifth largest one called Adelaide. Also within that zone is the slightly inland capital city of Canberra. The only real large city (4th largest) lying outside of it is Perth. It is the most fertile area of the continent. The middle of Australia is the "outback" and is arid or desert region.

Apart from Antarctica, Australia is the driest continent in the world. About 35% of the continent receives so little rain, it is effectively desert. In total, 70% of the mainland receives less than 500mm of rain annually, which classes it as arid, or semi-arid. Australia's deserts are distributed throughout the western plateau and interior lowlands. The total desert area equates to 18% of the total mainland area of Australia.



I presume you all have railroads and farms and interior rivers and cities, and all sorts of deveolpment inland....
The Australian rail network consists of a total of 33,819 km of track, of which 2,540 km is electrified. One of the world's longest train routes is the India Pacific and it runs Sydney - Adelaide - Perth, it takes 3 nights in either direction and the distance is 4352 kilometres. The Ghan runs Adelaide - Alice Springs - Darwin, takes 2 nights in either direction with a distance of 2979 kilometres.

Agriculture in Australia is a major industry and about 402,000 people are employed in agriculture and agriculture related services. Agriculture accounts for approximately 3% of Australia's GDP. Until the late 1950s agriculture accounted for up to 80% of Australia's export earnings, but that percentage has fallen with diversification of the economy. Australia produces a wide variety of crops and livestock, and 80% of all agricultural production is exported.

South Australia's Anna Creek Station is the world's largest working cattle station. Its area is roughly 24 000 km² (6 000 000 acres) which is bigger than Israel. It is 8 000 km² larger than Alexandria Station (its nearest rival) in the Northern Territory and four times the size of the biggest ranch in the US, which is only 6 000 km².

Australia is not well endowed with natural lakes containing plentiful supplies of water. Both rainfall and runoff can be highly variable across the continent and so many rivers have had dams containing large reservoirs constructed on them, to meet water and power supply needs.



as compared to what you know of the USA and the world, how do you honestly compare your national situation???
Officially, Australia has recorded 17 consecutive years of economic growth since 1992 – averaging 3.3 per cent a year. It has been one of the most stable and productive periods of Australia's modern history, and places Australia in the top echelon of developed countries in terms of sustained rates of growth. Australia is forecast to grow again at 2.75 per cent in 2008-09 which is above the average growth rate members of the Organisation of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) of 2.2 per cent. Australia ranks first in the Asia-Pacific region for labour, agricultural and industrial productivity per person employed, according to the IMD World Competitiveness Yearbook. The 2006 OECD Economic Survey noted that living standards in Australia surpass those of all Group of Eight countries (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States) except the United States.

We're being hit by the "credit crunch" too but at this stage I don't think it's as bad as in the US or UK. From my personal experience, the cost of living in Australia is far lower than the UK and similar to the US.



Interested in the development aspect of things...as me being a tech sort of person....also the climate...
Australia has increasingly become a knowledge-based economy. Numerous factors have contributed to this development: the pace of technological and social change; advances in transport making travel, and the exchange of ideas, easier; and broader access to higher standards of education. Information and communications technology (ICT) is a key driver of economic growth, and continuing expansion of ICT infrastructure is essential to keep pace with world standards. Australia's ICT market is worth an estimated $89 billion with 25 000 companies employing 236 000 IT specialists.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere and its seasons are the opposite of the Northern Hemisphere, i.e. summer in Europe and North America is winter in Australia. Broadly Australia has just two climatic zones, 40% of the continent is in the tropical zone, with the remaining regions south of the Tropic of Capricorn being in the temperate zone. The tropical zone has two seasons: hot wet season from November to April, and warm dry from May to October. The temperate zones have four seasons: spring (September to November), summer (December to February), autumn (March to May) and winter (June to August). Due to its size, the weather across the continent can range from below zero temperatures in the Snowy Mountains to intolerable heat in the north-west. Snow falls on the higher mountains during the winter months, enabling skiing in southern New South Wales and Victorian ski resorts, as well as the smaller resorts in Tasmania.



and can't help note the map of the USA nation is the exact replica of your continent, inverted....
Well, similar...
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Will/can you describe it in your terms, going around the joint???
Australia's affordable by Western European and American standards, but certainly not a budget destination compared to somewhere like Southeast Asia. Your biggest costs will be accommodation and transport. Bank on around $100 to $150 (AUD) per day if you're hiring a car, staying in hotels and eating out etc.

The big cites are pretty much like any big city elsewhere in the world, except more people will sound like me! Sydney's probably the busiest city, with Melbourne a close second - both good places to go if you want to do the tourist thing and have loads of varying night life. Brisbane's sort of like a big country town and isn't as hustle and bustle as Sydney or Melbourne. Darwin is probably like no other place on earth and is kind of like a big frontier town - good fun though. Adelaide is nice and is called the City Of Churches - because it has loads of (wait for it) churches! Nice place to see, probably not as laid back as Brisbane but not as full on as Sydney or Melbourne. The capital city Canberra was designed and is therefore, super neat and real easy to find your way around in - if you have a map, it's impossible to get lost while driving around. Nice place to visit - probably busier than Brisbane and Adelaide. Never been to Tasmania but have been told it's really nice - a friend of mine was from Tasmania and he used to call mainland Australia, the North Island. Perth is closed - well, it was the last time I tried to go there. It's a weird place and I wasn't really taken with it. Loads of emigrated Poms there as originally, it was the closest destination from the UK. Bit of a dud but you might like it, people do I guess...



I know it's a LOT to ask for a guy....but what prompts me a lot about this is a guy I went to High School/friends with...moved there upon gradding, and never seen since....
Yes, that was a lot. Are the answers ok? A lot of the info I pinched from the net, just in case you were thinking I was a demigod on all things Australian!

One last thing:
The crest on the Australian coat of arms is supported by two native Australian animals: the red kangaroo (Macropus rufus) and the emu (Dromaius novaehollandiae). It is thought the kangaroo and emu were chosen to symbolise a nation moving forward, reflecting a common belief that neither animal can move backwards easily.

We are the only nation that eat our coat of arms :lol:
 
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Thank you very much Wayne, I asked on account of I dunno what buzzwords to even type into for the information....

large enough topic like that, and knowing almost nothing, for you i'ts much easier because you have a solid basis for knowing what to research....

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Thank you very much Wayne, I asked on account of I dunno what buzzwords to even type into for the information....

large enough topic like that, and knowing almost nothing, for you i'ts much easier because you have a solid basis for knowing what to research....

:bump::smash:
You're welcome mate, glad I could help. Are you thinking of going for a visit? I reckon you'd enjoy yourself if you did :thumbs:
 
Thank you very much Wayne, I asked on account of I dunno what buzzwords to even type into for the information....

large enough topic like that, and knowing almost nothing, for you i'ts much easier because you have a solid basis for knowing what to research....

:bump::smash:
You're welcome mate, glad I could help. Are you thinking of going for a visit? I reckon you'd enjoy yourself if you did :thumbs:

No, no way in hell to make that trip, a few years ago yes, but I had no one to go with,.....now that I do, no money...can't win...oh well....:lol::bomb:

Always wondered how that move turned out for Pete, 45 some years later....

Maybe two places on the planet to visit, attract me....China and Australia...

just for to see the future...:eek::twitch::thumbs:
 
Thank you very much Wayne, I asked on account of I dunno what buzzwords to even type into for the information....

large enough topic like that, and knowing almost nothing, for you i'ts much easier because you have a solid basis for knowing what to research....

:bump::smash:
You're welcome mate, glad I could help. Are you thinking of going for a visit? I reckon you'd enjoy yourself if you did :thumbs:

I've always wanted to move there since I was kid. Even at my age I'd move there in a heart beat if I knew I had a job and could sustain a decent life style.:cool:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:

Yea, that could work. I could stay there long enough to find a woman to shack up with. But, don't tell Wayen.:friends:
 
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Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:

Yea, that could work. I could stay there long enough to find a woman to shack up with. But, don't tell Wayen.:friends:

I'm not telling,because i just might join you there. What Wayne don't know won't hurt him :smash:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:
No key under the mat guys, sorry. My ma has a key as she goes out there 2 or 3 times a week to make sure everything's ok and the neighbours keep an eye on the place too - they'd notice if you tried to sneak in there, the sort of neighbours that miss NOTHING! If you're looking for somewhere to stay though, lemme know... :thumbs:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:

Yea, that could work. I could stay there long enough to find a woman to shack up with. But, don't tell Wayen.:friends:

I'm not telling,because i just might join you there. What Wayne don't know won't hurt him :smash:

Everytime I think about going there, I get fired up. If the people there are like Wayne, it should be great.:)
 
I know it's a LOT to ask for a guy....but what prompts me a lot about this is a guy I went to High School/friends with...moved there upon gradding, and never seen since....
Yes, that was a lot. Are the answers ok? A lot of the info I pinched from the net, just in case you were thinking I was a demigod on all things Australian!

You had me going for a while there (lol) I was wondering if you did a travel show or worked for the board of tourism....
 
Wayne , is it true that Aussy men Aussy men use the roo for mateing before they marry? ,, you guys have some strange ways.
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:
No key under the mat guys, sorry. My ma has a key as she goes out there 2 or 3 times a week to make sure everything's ok and the neighbours keep an eye on the place too - they'd notice if you tried to sneak in there, the sort of neighbours that miss NOTHING! If you're looking for somewhere to stay though, lemme know... :thumbs:

I would like to visit sometime,but i will wait till you are there so i can have a guide,don;t want to get eaten by any croc's,and some of those snakes you guys have :amazed:.
Jeff already got on to me about walking around in the Mojave looking for rattlers :cussing:. I just wanted a pic :bounce:
I tried like hell to find one,but i never did :skeptic:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:
No key under the mat guys, sorry. My ma has a key as she goes out there 2 or 3 times a week to make sure everything's ok and the neighbours keep an eye on the place too - they'd notice if you tried to sneak in there, the sort of neighbours that miss NOTHING! If you're looking for somewhere to stay though, lemme know... :thumbs:

I would like to visit sometime,but i will wait till you are there so i can have a guide,don;t want to get eaten by any croc's,and some of those snakes you guys have :amazed:.
Jeff already got on to me about walking around in the Mojave looking for rattlers :cussing:. I just wanted a pic :bounce:
I tried like hell to find one,but i never did :skeptic:


The trick is not look for the snake, but appear to be very stupid and walk around as if you are lost. They will find you.:lol:
 
Wayne has a nice house sitting vacant with a swimming pool,you could just move into it,he only goes home maybe twice a year,find out when he is going home and just be out before he gets there,Wayne will never no :D
Hey Wayne is there a spare key under the welcome mat :wink:
No key under the mat guys, sorry. My ma has a key as she goes out there 2 or 3 times a week to make sure everything's ok and the neighbours keep an eye on the place too - they'd notice if you tried to sneak in there, the sort of neighbours that miss NOTHING! If you're looking for somewhere to stay though, lemme know... :thumbs:

I would like to visit sometime,but i will wait till you are there so i can have a guide,don;t want to get eaten by any croc's,and some of those snakes you guys have :amazed:.
Jeff already got on to me about walking around in the Mojave looking for rattlers :cussing:. I just wanted a pic :bounce:
I tried like hell to find one,but i never did :skeptic:


The trick is not look for the snake, but appear to be very stupid and walk around as if you are lost. They will find you.:lol:

Oh! that's how you find them,and i was walking around with a stick beating every bush i could find and kicking over rocks and nothing :smash:
even while we were on the run,you guys warned me of rattlers when i would step into the wood's,still nothing. next time i'm just going to wander around aimlessly and see what happens :push:
 
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