1984 Turbo. Go bigger.

JoBy

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I bought my Corvette in april 4th 1998, 10 years ago, my first american car. I did not know much about Corvettes then, but I liked the C4 look. It was all stock exept for a ADS Superchip, a rear wing and a black paintjob.

I started with some minor modifications.

I removed the AIR-pump and made a bracket for the pulley.
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More pictures: http://www.joby.se/corvette/mods/2000_2_alternator/

Later I also started thinking about a supercharger. I decided to move the alternator to make room for a supercharger on the drivers side. With the AIR-pump gone that looked like a good location.

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More pictures: http://www.joby.se/corvette/mods/2000_2_alternator/

In october 2000 I was in the US and I bought a Vortech supercharger at a swap-meet. That winter I made supercharger brackets and made an air-box to replace the air filter box. I also replaced the fuel pump and installed a progressive fuel pressure regulator to get more fuel during boost.

The first day with boost I lost 2nd gear in the th700. Within a month I broke the rear end.

In may 2001 I was finished with my Corvette modifications. At least I thought so at the time.
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More pictures of the 'finished' Corvette: http://www.joby.se/corvette/2001-05-23_lawn/index.htm

I measured 65% hp increase over the stock engine.
Blue is hp/tq with supercharger. Yellow is without supercharger.
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Early 2002 I went to a friend i Houston and I brought a lot of parts home.

AFR 190 aluminum heads, a new Cross-Ram intake manifold, Hooker super comp headers, new cam, lifters, roller tip rockers, new rings, bearings and gaskets.
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I installed the new heads and cam, but I used the stock Cross-Fire intake.
I also removed the A/C pump and moved the alternator to the passenger side.
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More pictures: http://jobyteknik.homeip.net/corvette/2002-05-12_ready_for_start/2002-05-12_ready_for_start.htm

Later that summer I installed the Offenhauser intage that I bought. I made a custom lid and mounted one TBI backwards to center it on the intake and still fit the aircleaner for a stock look. I replaced the windshied wiper motor with a smaller modified Blazer wiper motor.

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More pictures: http://jobyteknik.homeip.net/corvette/2002-11_offy_installation/

The spring 2003 I modified the fan housing when I removed the A/C evaporator.
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More pictures: http://jobyteknik.homeip.net/corvette/2003-04-13_fan_housing/
 
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With the new intake the air-box was a bit higher and more to the rear. I had to modify the air-box to clear the distributor and hood.

Pictures: http://jobyteknik.homeip.net/corvette/2005-11-17_airbox/

Later in the summer 2003 when I had sorted out some problems and finally installed the supercharger again the tranny broke again within a few days.

Instead of throwing more money into the th700 I decided to get a 4L80E instead.

I spent the summer 2004 building a garage while the Corvette waited for a better tranny.

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I installed the 4L80E early 2005.

Old and new:
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Read all about it: http://www.joby.se/corvette/mods/2004-12-26_4l80/
 
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I had some problems the summer 2005. The cam lost a lobe and a seal in the supercharger were bad so it would have to be rebuilt again.

I decided that it was time to try something new when I had to replace the cam anyway.

I sold the supercharger and Offy intake.

I bought a Holley Stealth Ram and a turbo from a Volvo semi truck. I also bought a big front mount intercooler.

I had to modify the HSR to clear the hood:

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Building turbo Headers:

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I made a surge tank and mounted two BOCSH fuel pumps and filters where the spare tire used to be.

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I was more or less ready to install the turbo during the 2006 seson, but with the new cam and intake I wanted to sort everything out fist without boost.

I had one problem after another. I had some fuel problems and rewired to semi-sequencial injection. (The injectors fires i pairs) I lost spark and installed a MSD 6AL and converted to crank trigger. When I finally was ready to install the turbo the tranny started acting up with black oil.

I went to the dyno anyway to get a pre turbo run and that killed the tranny for good. I only managed to get one good run on the dyno with 230 rwhp.

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After that I parked the Corvette for the winter.

It was the converter that had a major failure. The oil cooler and transmission was full of aluminum shavings.

I bought a new 9.5" Vigilante converter with a 3-disc lock-up.

I finished the turbo installation early in the summer 2007.

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At the time I ran 10 psi boost.
On the street I had to go faster than 60 mph to be able to step on it without traction problems. My tires might not be the best but they are not that bad.

I went to a local racetrack on the 11th.
This is a picture from the 'pacecar' lap before we could have some full speed runs around the track.

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This is a short movie. I am having some traction problems coming out onto the straight.
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I raised boost to about 15 psi and got even more traction problems.

I bought a pair of Hoosier Drag Radials (dot) and what a differance !!

New best 60" = 1.72 sec.
New best ET 11.14 sec with a trap speed of 203.7 km/h ( 126.6 mph ).
New best trap speed of 210.9 km/h ( 131 mph ).

This was on plain tarmac, and some wheelspin, so with improved traction a high 10 is possible.

I found some pictures from the event.

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A movie with all my runs. ( 70 mb )

http://www.joby.se/video/joby/2007-09-09_joby_optand.mpg
 
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After that event I went to the dyno again and it was a big surprice.

627 rwhp at 4200 rpm.
1086 Nm ( 801 lbs-ft ) at 4000 rpm.

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For some reson it did not hold boost at higher RPM. Peak boost is 1.3 bar (19psi) at 3900 rpm and drops to 0.9 bar (13psi) at 5000 rpm

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Engine specification when I did the dyno run.

Stock engine block.
Stock crank.
Stock rods.
Stock pistons.
ARP bolts.
CompCams 12-404-04 cam (LSA 114, duration 222/225 @0.050, lift 0.464/0.464
CompCams 858-16 Pro magnum Hydraulic lifters
CompCams 1412-16 magnum roller rocker arms
AFR 190 heads with 74cc chamber size.
Holley Stealth Ram that I modified to clear the stock hood.
Haltech E6K
120 lbs injectors.
SX fuel pressure regulator.
Twin BOSCH fuel pumps and a surge tank in the rear right fender.
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4L80E controlled by a TCI T-Com
Vigilante converter
Front mount XS Power intercooler with 24"x12"x4" core.
HKS 'style' 50mm wastegate
Garrett GT4288N turbo from a Volvo semi truck
E85 ethanol fuel.

It is not a stock engine, but the short block is stock except for ARP bolts.

The 1984 Corvette has the CrossFire Engine.
The stock engine was rated 205 hp @ 4200 RPM and 290 lbs-ft @ 2800 RPM.

After the dyno I did some measuring of the exhaust pressure and at 5000 rpm, where boost was down to 0.9 bar, exhaust pressure was over 3 bar.

The 2007 seson ended with the conclution that the big semi truck turbo was too small.

The search for a replacement began.
 
2008!

I bought a bigger turbo.

A comparison between the Garrett GT4288N that I used last summer and my new Garrett TBP7501.

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I thought that it was tight before but I was wrong ... With the new turbo it's tight but the hood still closes.

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I made a fixture for the new flange when locating the turbo.

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This stuff is the bomb :) Awesome Jonas. Gotta love that famous Swedish ingenuity :1st:
 
That is some awesome engineering on a CFI motor. The video was awesome as well. You gotta love a CF that runs low 11s... LOL It looks like it comes out of the bottom like a scalded dog. Thanks for the great pics JoBy.
 
Wow, that's fantastic.

What made you go with the truck turbo?

Thanks!

It thought that it was a good sized turbo and the price was right.

Usually a big diesel turbo has a larger turbine housing than what would normally be used on a gasoline engine. It will spool at a higher RPM but once you get boost it is more efficient because you get less exhaust pressure at the same boost.

I maxed out the GT4288N at 4000 RPM, both compressor and turbine side. That it the reson for the larger turbo. The new turbo is probably good for 1200 hp but I an not aiming that high. The new turbo is almost brand new ant the price was rught on that one too.

Data from the dyno:

(Rear wheel)
1087 Nm ( 800 lbs.ft.) @ 4000 RPM (this is rear wheel converted to crank scale.)
627 hp @ 4200 RPM

I have a 4L80E transmission so transmission losses might be higher than with the smaller th700. Also I had to make the dyno run in overdrive because I maxed out the dyno in third gear.

If transmission losses are 15% then the crank numbers are:
1280 Nm ( 942 lbs.ft.) @ 4000 RPM
738 hp @ 4200 RPM

If transmission losses are 18% then the crank numbers are:
1325 Nm ( 975 lbs.ft.) @ 4000 RPM
764 hp @ 4200 RPM

Anyway, Rear wheel nubers are what I know and what counts.

I want to increase the power range to higher RPM with the new turbo.
I also think that the tourqe peak of 1087 Nm is a bit high to be safe.

If I lower max boost to about 1.1 bar ( 16 psi ) then rwtq will probably go down to 900 Nm ( 660 lbs.ft). If I maintain that tourqe to 5250 RPM then that is 660 rwhp will less strain on the engine. With a flatter tourqe curve it will be easier to maintain traction too.
 
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