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Yellow73SB
06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
I've been doing some reading and it seems everyone recommends street tires for there first year or so of hpde's

Do you think I should use the street tires?

So now I'm looking for some wide tires

Goodyear and bfg has 295/50/15 for 120 each

Twin_Turbo
06-11-2008, 03:36 PM
I don't know, but BFG RadialT/As , they're junk IMO. As are most of those RWLs

gkull
06-11-2008, 06:17 PM
I'm a 17 inch wheel fan. The tire rack has a cheaper brand called Sumato or something like that. I know that one of lightly modded C4 ZF6 uses them for our local road racing track.

I think that he had something like 315 rear and 255 or 275 in front. I've been using Yokohama mx's for my street fronts

Yellow73SB
06-11-2008, 07:28 PM
But 17's aren't cheap

Twin_Turbo
06-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Sumitumo? JUNK!!! I had one come apart on me, lost the entire thread surface and it went into the opposing traffic hitting a semi in the front. I went off sideways, lightly clipped the center divider and wrecked the front spoiler.

turtlevette
06-11-2008, 11:03 PM
Sumitumo? JUNK!!! I had one come apart on me, lost the entire thread surface and it went into the opposing traffic hitting a semi in the front. I went off sideways, lightly clipped the center divider and wrecked the front spoiler.


i use the sumitomos 275/40/17 for track days because they have a very soft tread rating of 160 and are just as cheap as 15" junk but perform a lot better.

the tread goes away fast. 3-4 track days then they're done.

MYBAD79
06-12-2008, 01:00 AM
I use Sumitomos on my DD because the 315-35-17 are less than $100 :shocking::shocking:

They are junk.... they last about 15000 miles and that's mixed city/highway driving and not doing burnouts.... did not have a failure and I'm on the second set.... I had Goodyears before and although they're $250 each they are worth the money - a HUGE difference.... doesn't really matter when you have a screw or nail stuck in the tire....
One thing I have learned over the years: the frequency of tire damage caused by foreign objects penetrating the tire is directly proportional to the value of your tire.
:ill::ill:

To contribute something valuable here: Chris, the Dunlop GT Qualifiers are (or feel) a lot better than the BFGs... Discount Tire, $100 mounted and balanced in 295-50-15..... they do price match so shop around....

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 01:24 AM
How about master craft

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MYBAD79
06-12-2008, 01:27 AM
How about master craft

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Once you add shipping and tax (they in FL) you're at almost $200... get a name brand tire for that much money..... mastercraft... reminds me of these RWL "roadhugger" tires I see on S10 or Ranger trucks all the time....LOL

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 02:06 AM
I think maybe I'll just stick with the hoosier slicks

mrvette
06-12-2008, 02:46 AM
But 17's aren't cheap


17's are the cheeeeepest decent performance tire you can find....tire for tire, size for size...go to 18+++ and see....

16" these daze are all truck tires, damn nearly....

15" are for sure....

MYBAD79
06-12-2008, 02:56 AM
The dunlops aren't really all that bad... and cheap.... Firestone Indy500 seem to be pretty good too from what I hear, stiff sidewall designed for trucks....

None of these can compete with a modern 17 or 18 inch tire..... :smash:

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 03:26 AM
There aren't really any cheap 17x10 wheels though

Unless I use adapters

Maybe I can be like Greenwood with bfg tires

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redvetracr
06-12-2008, 03:44 AM
There aren't really any cheap 17x10 wheels though

Unless I use adapters

Maybe I can be like Greenwood with bfg tires

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I owned that car for about two weeks after it had been destroyed in a fire....

MYBAD79
06-12-2008, 03:47 AM
There aren't really any cheap 17x10 wheels though


No there aren't any wheels that are the correct "style" and "size", the closest match is the TTII wheel.... I saw 18x10 / 8x9 combo TT "M": on Estink/Ebay but the seller seemed to be a lil fishy...700 shipped ??????

The Ansen sprint or Minilite style would look awesome in 17" or 18".... heck, I'd prefer the stock aluminum rim design in 17"...... hello, aftermarket, hello asia... sombody please make his wheel please ???

redvetracr
06-12-2008, 03:48 AM
I would be willing to bet those BFG T/A radials Greenwood used were made "special" just for him.....

enkeivette
06-12-2008, 05:07 AM
I've heard that certain tires (Kumho being one of them) use a softer compound on the outside of the tire to get better ratings. But once they start to burn through, they won't be as sticky as when they were new.

Just hear-say though.


RedVetteRacer, that's very cool. :thumbs:

mrvette
06-12-2008, 09:47 AM
RVR, why you sell the car?? Two much to put back together?? what a shame....

I used '92 vette wheels I picked up from a club member up north long time ago, for like 400 bux, wheels and tires.....offer I could not refuse....

never cared for solid silver on any vechicle, so I painted them black in the center.....

the adaptors are 2.5 inch VBP and been on there for some 15 years now...

SCCA VETTE
06-12-2008, 12:19 PM
If you were going to do JUST low speed events and want just a cheap tire the sumitomo is a "OK" tire. I used these last summer for local auto-X and street tires and they did very well for CHEAP tires.

The times were pretty decent with the tires and it was NOT due to a "good" driver". I also used the same tires as stret tires and never had any problems. I agree with the fact that was posted above that the tires do wear pretty fast on the track IF you push the car hard.

I did not run any high speed events on the tires and would not advise doing so. They are cheap tires and I (personal opinion) would not chance high speed cornering with a $99 tire. I have used BFG in the past and had 0 problems with them and they really held up well even with me over driving them.

Here are some pics of the sumitomo's on my car.
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guru
06-12-2008, 01:39 PM
I plan on running 255/50-15

Its essentially an F-body Tire. Probably plenty of good options.

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 02:24 PM
I would be willing to bet those BFG T/A radials Greenwood used were made "special" just for him.....

I was kind of thinking that

How bad was the fire? Was it still a coupe when you owned it?

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 02:30 PM
I plan on running 255/50-15

Its essentially an F-body Tire. Probably plenty of good options.

I cant find one 255/50/15 tire

redvetracr
06-12-2008, 03:22 PM
I would be willing to bet those BFG T/A radials Greenwood used were made "special" just for him.....

I was kind of thinking that

How bad was the fire? Was it still a coupe when you owned it?


bare frame & cage freshly sandblasted....I believe it was always a roadster...an interesting side note, the guy who owned it when his garage mysteriously burned (John Cargill) was a long time friend of Greenwood customer Rick Mancuso. I don`t know in what condition Greenwood sold it but the "restoration" was performed as a high school shop project.....Cargill`s friend Gary Valene(sp) was the shop teacher at Adelei Stevenson high school in Lincolnshire Il....this was also 30 years ago looong before the car or any of those old race cars had any value.
redvetracr

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 04:13 PM
I these but they are 200 each

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And there really isn't a good front tire

BRUTAL64
06-12-2008, 05:51 PM
I don't know, but BFG RadialT/As , they're junk IMO. As are most of those RWLs


T/As are junk???? I'll have you know I can slide and driff with the best of them in the corners.:pprrtt:

Twin_Turbo
06-12-2008, 06:12 PM
But does that mean they're a good tire?

Yellow73SB
06-12-2008, 08:42 PM
I wonder how well mickey thompson indy profiles will do?

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White76
06-12-2008, 10:59 PM
I wonder how well mickey thompson indy profiles will do?

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Those are for drag racing.

Oh by the way, alot of groups putting on HPDE's will not allow beginners (green group) to run R compound or slicks - DOT street tires only.

guru
06-13-2008, 01:09 AM
Pardon me.

255/50-16

Street tires, Autocross slicks, road race slicks, Drag radials, everything in 1 convienent size.

And 26.2" tall.

Yellow73SB
06-13-2008, 01:48 AM
I may have found some 16x12 wheels of a corvette that I could run gt-1 tires

Those a freakin huge

Yellow73SB
06-13-2008, 01:51 AM
I could get new shells and run 16x10 in the front though They are 3 piece

racervette69
06-13-2008, 03:05 AM
I may have found some 16x12 wheels of a corvette that I could run gt-1 tires

Those a freakin huge

now you are talking cheap?????,,, 25.5x13x16 only $353 per tire,,, or I've got 3 sets of take offs,, 25.5x13x16 front and 27x14x16 rear all goodyears. will sell cheap........ also have a number of shells, inter and outers,, cheap.